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SimonSamoorye

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Posted 13 years ago #

There are tons of different Hip-Hop styles in this day and age, so which types of rap do you feel and what types do you not...

UK Hip-Hop (Jehst, DJ Format, Yungun...)
L.A Underground Hip-Hop (P.U.T.S, U.D...)
Daisy Age (De La Soul, UMC...)
90s N.Y Gangster Rap (Big L, Gangstarr, Wu-Tang...)
White Boy Rap (Edan, Beastie Boys...)
Producer Hip-Hop - (Headnodic, DJ Format, Handsome Boy Modelling School...)

sh!t-Hop (Chingy, J-Kwon...)
00s Crunk (Lil Jon & The Eastside Boys...)
Grime (So Solid, Roll Deep...they're trying to call it Hip-Hop now)
Comedian Rap (Ludacris, Eminem...)
'Innovative' Hip-Hop (El-P, Aesop Rock...)
Mix-Tape Hip-Hop (DJ Clue, Kay Slay, Dip Set)
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Posted 13 years ago #

La hip hop and Mix Tape Hip HOp DJ Kay Slay Is Dope Plus Hes been famous since he was 16, AKA Dez One (graffiti Writer from new york)
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Posted 13 years ago #

I basically agree with you Simon but I rate the Def Jux sh!t. I don't really know much about it being 'innovative', I just listen to it as music, some is good, some ain't. I highly rate RJD2, Diverse, Prefuse 73 is dope, most Stones Throw stuff

I don't even think I've heard any of that crunk stuff, I'm just not in on that scene, I've barely heard of Lil Jon, I guess that's a good thing...

oh and there's not enough singing in hip hop
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Posted 13 years ago #

could you explain more why you consider aesop rock and el-p sh!t?

I will admit aesops sound can get a little ....... old but when he works it works well. daylight for instance.

Joseph
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Posted 13 years ago #

SimonSamoorye said: There are tons of different Hip-Hop styles in this day and age, so which types of rap do you feel and what types do you not...

UK Hip-Hop (Jehst, DJ Format, Yungun...)
L.A Underground Hip-Hop (P.U.T.S, U.D...)
Daisy Age (De La Soul, UMC...)
90s N.Y Gangster Rap (Big L, Gangstarr, Wu-Tang...)
White Boy Rap (Edan, Beastie Boys...)
Producer Hip-Hop - (Headnodic, DJ Format, Handsome Boy Modelling School...)

sh!t-Hop (Chingy, J-Kwon...)
00s Crunk (Lil Jon & The Eastside Boys...)
Grime (So Solid, Roll Deep...they're trying to call it Hip-Hop now)
Comedian Rap (Ludacris, Eminem...)
'Innovative' Hip-Hop (El-P, Aesop Rock...)
Mix-Tape Hip-Hop (DJ Clue, Kay Slay, Dip Set)

Well here are my likes in specific order

1.97-present "Underground" West Coast Hip-hop I use the word underground loosely because it means two totally different things than it did when it began, it went from unsigned/no label bullish to self-indulgance/I'm too real to be mainstream, nevertheless groups like the P, Lootpack,Foot Souljahz, Buc Fifty, Juxtapose, GoldenState, Dilated, Krondon, Planet Asia, Likwit Crew, Ugly Duckling, Visionaries, J5 more as well.
2.RSE(Rhymesayers Entertainment), I'm gonna have to say nearly everything that's released is dope in their own niches of hip-hop, which RSE covers nearly it all, many props to this midwest label.
3. 90's East Coast in general, which I am not an expert on since I mainly listen to 1 and 2 but these are ones I have discovered to be dope, I'm still picking up new ish. Gangstarr, Mos Def(Universal Mag was and still is so so fresh)Blackstar(Respiration gives me chills)Kweli, High & Mighty, Wordsworth, Big L, Most Wu-Tang,earlier Jay-Z, Nas, Biggie, and others
I hate this

Lil John-I want everyone to seek pics of this cat without sunglasses, preferebly his graduation photo, he's more like a pauper of crunk.
Yin-Yang twins, ironically they hosted sucker-free sunday, how?
I am getting annoyed with Eminem's production, cleaning out his closet and his latest single sound so damn similiar, it's like he sampled one for the other, getting off the hihats and leave em alone for once, but that's the only thing I don't like about Em really.
Chingy is wack, Nelly used to be listenable, I heard his old tapes from way-back he had a damn good vocab, now he's labelized, exec's want a banger not something you can sit back and disect. I digress. I don't like hating really, Nelly really can bring it, Chingy tho, I don't know. I am too tired to list more.
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Posted 13 years ago #

Kweli, Blackstar, Blackalicious, Wu I also rate

forgot to big up Ninjatune - anything that label puts out is dope man, in different ways
SimonSamoorye

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Posted 13 years ago #

timelord said: could you explain more why you consider aesop rock and el-p sh!t?

I will admit aesops sound can get a little ....... old but when he works it works well. daylight for instance.

Joseph

Because they're sh!t...
YoYoPo

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Posted 13 years ago #

it's all opinions man, personally I rate Aesop, his voice is so different and many of his beats are fresh, he gets some good producers in like Blockhead, pick up his album !Ninjatune!
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Posted 13 years ago #

Man I miss the days when Company Flow rocked the mic, when Rawkus was where Def Jux is now. Aesop Rock doesn't come as consistent as he should, and Bazooka Tooth was not as hype as the 1st Jux release he had. While Def Jux got a huge rep for being that "More Dusty than Digital", and keeping that Funcrusher Plus essence alive, they really aren't droppin' as hot as they could be. Heck, the Vast Aire solo album was hotter than anything the Jux has released, and that was on Chocolate Records.

Atlanta Hip-Hop has been incredibly blessed by the talents of Collective Efforts, a four man crew that can keep the show blazing both on the tables and with a good jam band behind them as well. I'm talking Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik important; while Purple Ribbon may be the commercial force of the south this summer (Big Boi's new label), CE's new release, Trail Mix comes with as strong of a message for true hip-hop heads, this knowledge would make KRS proud to rep'em.

The only thing I'm seriously not feeling is the dimension punk took in the new century; Blink stinks, Good Charlotte craps an ugly stone; the best I can do is find that classic classic, or the few pieces of the late 90's that carried there weight sufficiently.
SimonSamoorye

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Posted 13 years ago #

Anyone pick up HHC this month?

It's got a little Def Jux mixtape by DJ Wiz.

I personally think Wiz is nice but the tracks aren't my cuppa tea.

Fast Cars by Aesop has an alright but over repetitive beat
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Posted 12 years ago #

"White Boy Rap (Edan, Beastie Boys...) "

Excuse me? Even though you rated them +, it still irks me.

OH PARDON ME I DIDN'T KNOW MUSIC KNEW RACE BOUNDARIES BUT I GUESS IM WRONG.

And you need innovative hip-hop, otherwise the culture stagnates and everything begins to sound the same. You need the extremes, thats why 2005 is shaping up to be such a good year.
SimonSamoorye

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Posted 12 years ago #

Sorry if I offended you mate.

But there's a big difference between Edan and Pete Rock, or the Beasties and Wu-Tang.

Alot of people be like, "everyones the same, despite your race", well we're all human, but different upbringings and backgrounds change our musical tastes.

There are no race boundaries but that's them. They can't be anyone else.
The Next Step

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Posted 12 years ago #

Some of my favourites:

MF Doom
Madlib
A Tribe Called Quest (Phife's the man IMO even though a lot of people disagree 8-))
De La Soul
Wu-Tang Clan
Gangstarr (and Guru's Jazzmataz stuff)
Afu-Ra
Jeru The Damaja
Oh No
People Under The Stairs
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Binary Star / OneBeLo (Sup Rangaluk! :-))
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Posted 12 years ago #

HOLLA!
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Posted 8 years ago #

such an old post but i thought it was interesting...

there is a lot of good hip hop to me.. from Zion i, PUTS, strange fruit, pharcyde, do or die, bone thugs, lupe fiasco, aesop rock, the grouch and eligh, living legends, murs, RPM, souls of mischief, the list could on forever...

but what my main focus is, is the SH!T hip hop which includes:

Lil wayne ( some are catchy for the club i admit, and back in the day he wasn't SO bad, but now he SUCKS)
Gucci mayne- (some songs are catchy once again)
Dont care for young jeezy
new boys
pretty much ANYONE on the radio right now..
nelly is garbage now
Pdiddy is garbage now
akon can't rap (even though some songs are catchy)

Ahh i can't even think of everyone i dislike right now, but there is a huge list!

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