Next step..Started 12 years ago by Guy Friday / toggle topic info
Currently I'm working with fruityloops only as my beatmaker.
And I doooo like the set up of it, I love having the storage space of my computer for my sample library.
Buuut, I'm looking at taking the next step, and keep hearing MPC, MPC, MPC.
So, what's the best MPC to get ahold of? And what kind of price am I looking at?
Is it safe to pick one up second hand?
Also looking for something to help with the sound of my drums.. I think they lack the "crispness" I hear in a lot of Hip-Hop I'm down with, is this because of my samples, or something else?
im gonna go against the grain and tell you straight up - master FL man. for sound editing get Sound Forge - you can do all the compressing you want to get the "crispyness". My good friend is an AMAZING producer that just uses those two things. Trust me man, software is as good as an MPC, you just have to master it. Too many cats buy MPC's and then end up making beats that sound as bland and thin as any "hated on" software..
just my two cents.
goto http://www.mpc-forums.com/ they have loads of info on the forum about MPCs and technical info too, search on the forum first before asking any questions, they got real short fuse lately with newbies ! but generally they're cool and real helpful, it a good rescource if you're starting up.
DJ Alibi said: im gonna go against the grain and tell you straight up - master FL man. for sound editing get Sound Forge - you can do all the compressing you want to get the "crispyness". My good friend is an AMAZING producer that just uses those two things. Trust me man, software is as good as an MPC, you just have to master it. Too many cats buy MPC's and then end up making beats that sound as bland and thin as any "hated on" software..
just my two cents.
Thanks man, I'ma have a look for Sound Forge right now.
I started out exactly the same and still use FL a lot however I also copped an ASRX about a year ago and an MPC2000 (classic) last week both for silly secondhand prices (£90 for the ASR, £205 for the MP with 8 outs), they are both very diferent experiences from each other and very different from software also, I cant really say one is better than the other, if I need to make a beat in a quick sec and I know what I want to do then I go to FL usually as I know it so well, on the other hand I am loving making beats on the hardware, having a TT hooked up to the MPC and just sampling and creating on the fly is omething that cannot be recreated by software IMO, I have tried this previously with having the TT hooked up direct to the souncard and using trigger pads but...nah, whatever anyone says it ain't the same....you just dont get the same ideas...I also enjoy the limitations of the hardware, not having instant access to 1000's of FX forces u to be more creative rather than polishing poorly chosen or arranged samples with FX. As to a recommendation, I can only speak for what I got but the ASRX pisses over the MPC in just about every way, it sounds warmer and fatter, the FX kill, it has proper mute groups, it has chromatic mapping..etc tec however after using the MPC for only a week I am pretty much ready to sell the ASRX, the MPC is beutiflly simple to use, the seq is incredible, and its just a joy really, if you get a chance to get one please do as they are just so much fun to use, actually im gonna try sequncing the ASR from the MP and see how that goes
Of course the ASRX is warmer than the 2k, it used 12bit baby!
I will also vouche for FL. I've been using Fruity Loops 3.0 for 5 years, it's simple, yet can be damn complex. I use Adobe Audtion(Cool Edit) to chop my samples/loops. Once I get something started I sample my drum hits to my Akai and pound em out(unless the hi hat is two complex, because my MPC60's pads are old and not as sensative as they could be).
You gotta embrace the software and hardware equally.
So my signal flow chain goes as follows:
Turntable>Cool Edit>FL 3.0>MPC60>Nuendo 3.0(my "mastering" suite).
Finally got Sound Forge.. Whoa.
Easy to use, cleans up drums really nicely.. Thank you!
from my experience with software...i hated it...I couldnt get my ideas to come out...You have to definity sit i mean SIT and play with the mouse and i didnt like that...With an MPC i just load the sample cut one or 2 sections and play with em and in seconds i got a pattern that i was thinking in my head.....I perfer pads over a mouse anyday....People can get down on the computer but i have a low attention span...so software is HORRIBLE for me.. Plus i like using all my fingers not just one finger for teh click......get a simple sampler i would suggest one without a screen..like teh Boss sp-202 or 303...To definitly train your ears and loops stuff by feel and not perfect cuts on a digital screen...
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