Lookin to start makin beats finally and I want to sample my vinyl. Basically all I got the records, some cheezy numarks, fruity loops, garage band, and a keyboard synth (mini motif 6) with the midi capabilities (i just dont have a midi interface or anything like that to plug it in). I would appreciate any help, suggestions, or any sort of advisement at all as to how i can start sampling with what i got/what i need to get started. Any feedback would be dope dope dope, thanks!
also! wondering what some good speaker brands are for just general house rockin with my numarks...lay it on me!
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Posts: 195Posted 17 years ago #if your just begining -get your self a cheep mixer to plug all your sh!t into. then plug that mixer into your computer.
to start sampling all you need is a turntable, a bunch of records, somthing to record the samples (computer with fruitloops or whatever) and a good ear to find dem loops people aint on yet
though in my opinion, pushing little blocks around on screen to make music is not that cool and you wont get far. you need to think how you will bring something of ya own to the table.
dont ever use presets/ or pre aranged stuff. sinthentic sh!t will never sound as good as the real instruments.
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Posts: 594Posted 17 years ago #thanks i appreciate it i got the records now i just gotta figure out how to loop 'em -
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Posts: 34Posted 17 years ago #Yo if you really want to be samplin you need to hook your table up to an MPC. -
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Posts: 34Posted 17 years ago #mark james - simmbiotic said: i use an MPC, but its not needed to sample.
a turntable and a recording device is all that required.
he needs to master the basics before he gets involved in the MPC world.
Last time i checked the MPC was a sampling device. The only other way you would be sampling would be via your PC right? in which case you're using computer software which is not the way to go if you are serious about beatmaking. -
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Posts: 3Posted 17 years ago #LostScholar said:
mark james - simmbiotic said: i use an MPC, but its not needed to sample.
a turntable and a recording device is all that required.
he needs to master the basics before he gets involved in the MPC world.
Last time i checked the MPC was a sampling device. The only other way you would be sampling would be via your PC right? in which case you're using computer software which is not the way to go if you are serious about beatmaking.
sometimes people cant afford an mpc...
like me
i just use reason
im working on the money for an mpd but i know that even without that i'll flip some sh!t harder than you ever could with your mpc.
dont tell people what they need to use to compete. you can give suggestions but it all comes down to preference and what someone is comfortable with.
on the real, id rather put all my money into vinyl -
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Posts: 34Posted 17 years ago #Well actually most people just use Reason to polish their beats after they create some sequences on the MPC and send em to the PC. However, using software to create your beats is never going to approach the quality of a beat made with an MPC and some funk in your soul. I suppose using Reason to sample from Vinyl/CD would work but I trust the tools and techniques passed down by the forefathers of hip hop more than a virtual emulation of a sampling machine. And by the way, Reason studio has 3 versions for : $179, $349, $699 which is not significantly cheaper than a used MPC( prices range from $250-$750 depending on model) or a brand new MPC 1000($1000). -
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Posts: 195Posted 17 years ago #LostScholar said: I suppose using Reason to sample from Vinyl/CD would work but I trust the tools and techniques passed down by the forefathers of hip hop more than a virtual emulation of a sampling machine. .
the MPC's came out in 1994 and they didnt make the 2000xl till 97
so, forefathers of hip hop?!?!?
SP1200 maybe, but you didnt mention that.
the "forefathers" as you call em didnt have the tools of the 90s. -
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Posts: 34Posted 17 years ago #"Not trying to flame anybody" but did you realize that for example, People Under The Stairs created masterpieces without the use of whack ass computerized loops from software? Besides i wasn't saying that Producers were using like MPC 5000s in 1979 or something(the Roland CR-78, an early drum machine, came out in 1978 by the way), but drum machines in general were indeed used by the forefathers of hip hop. Originally DJs just used turntables and a mixer but remember this whole topic was about recording/sampling. The Linn LM-1 Drum Computer,released in 1980, was the first drum machine with the ability to sample. By the way MPC-60(the first MPC) came out in 1988 if you wanna talk specific dates busta. Do you think they had musical production software in 1980? how about 1988? Go listen to MC Chris if you want that synthetic crap. -
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Posts: 3,618Posted 17 years ago #just because you use a computer to sample doesn't mean you're making 'synthetic crap'. It's the exact same process MPC or PC, just sampling off those records and creating those beats. At the end of the day a talented producer will always be obvious, whatever the tools... -
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Posts: 34Posted 17 years ago #YoYoPo said: just because you use a computer to sample doesn't mean you're making 'synthetic crap'. It's the exact same process MPC or PC, just sampling off those records and creating those beats. At the end of the day a talented producer will always be obvious, whatever the tools...
I understand that the samples would sound the same no matter what device youre using to record your samples. However, I was just responding to the comment that with Reason he could " flip some sh!t harder than you ever could with your mpc". I just can't think of any real talented producers who would prefer composing a beat by arranging kicks and snares on screen with a mouse over really feelin the boom bap when you hit the pads of an MPC. Just my predilection i suppose.............
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