I have been diggin' through crates for a little over a year now. But I thought it would be cool to share what me and others like you go through to find those crusty LP's in the strangest of places. Expierances and what not....Tell us whats crackin'
i`ll post something later but imma go look for some records while ya`ll chit chat.
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Posts: 25Posted 21 years ago #I don't know what to say right now...I was about to log off.
But the smell.
the dust.
driving all over some nearby town or area you know nothing about
talking to shop owners
going to what feels like YOUR very own spot
eating
being broke
going hungry just to buy records
finding something dope
finding something so wack you just gotta have it
Me personally, I HAVE to go digging whenever it rains. That's a ritual. -
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Posts: 576Posted 21 years ago #RudeOne said: I have been diggin' through crates for a little over a year now. But I thought it would be cool to share what me and others like you go through to find those crusty LP's in the strangest of places. Expierances and what not....Tell us whats crackin'
i`ll post something later but imma go look for some records while ya`ll chit chat.
I like to dig on my own, that way I get the best records. Cause when I have one or two people (especially if they're not diggers) it makes me hurry!
I love diggin', searching for the perfect beat, that one you know nobodies seen before, jammin' to whatever tunes the shopowner's jammin' to, spying on what other consumers are into, finding them exclusives...I LOVE IT!
The best bit is the trip home, I like to inspect the record to the fullest while I'm sitting on the bus so I can get a feel of what it sounds like. -
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Posts: 180Posted 21 years ago #I only go with my friends when their are record shows, But to thrift shops and small records stores here in my town, (which are really really REALLY drying up) i go alone, sometimes bring my girl and she loves it but hates the smell of sweaty ol me and ol records...
I love takin my lucky headphones-1 beacause i consider them lucki and 2- it might remind me of an album to look for or put it on my do dig list. I carry around a note pad cuz i got bad HORRIBLE short term memory so if i come out with a pile of records to buy i know whichs ones i want because of this and that etc..
Being broke is part of it i guess, but i scrap up a few extra bucks by going through my familys cars and scooping up change to buy some 1 dollor records...
Once i found a crate of records at a friends house in a shed, and when i lifted the first or so records a horrible smell just shot up my nose and it burned. TO my surprise the record i saw on top was a GEM i was lookin for a los angeles negros album, and when i took it off the top there was a dead skunk, no eyes and its skin on the head pealed back to show his bare skull. And the album smelled like crap then and it still does, but it stays in the garage not in my house...... -
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Posts: 105Posted 21 years ago #I don't have any rituals... just a mantra. "Don't stop until you look at every record." I get tired sometimes man... I'll be flipping through rows and rows of crap and occasionally come across some cool stuff. I always have to remind myself to be patient and the gem will show. It normally always does.
Here's snippets from my most recent digs...
Butter
Jelly
Fresh-squeezed orange juice
Also, I love jumping out at random times for records. I don't like to schedule my expeditions... ever. It's more exciting when it's on a whim.[/url] -
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Posts: 524Posted 21 years ago #I dig alone mostly, my girl comes sometimes, but like he said before you get rushed. My main spot's are the flea markets about 15 min from my house. There are about 6 vendors. Records are always about a buck a peice sometimes more. My HandiTrax is my best friend, I always get someone coming up to me and talking about how cool it is. I can't believe how many records this one flea market has, it is indoor, and the same vendors, it's not like a ever-changing group, they're pretty solid. If I had to guess I'd say around 3000 or so records, which is a lot considering the size of the Flea Market(think of a pavillion about the size of two Walgreens Stores) and the fact that there are only 3 record vendors at this flea market in particular. This one vendor has so many that it is impossible to look at the bulk of his collection, they're crammed in the back, under piles of sh!t, but I can see em there waiting, but I literally cannot get to them, I'm afraid if I do try and look through them his whole stand is gonna collapse, and he's a redneck looking crazy mullet rocking weirdo that I wouldn't want to get pissed. But I have found some bluenotes and what-nots in his stash, but mainly it's country, folk, christmas, top 40 ish. Personally, the smell of records agrivates my nose, makes me sneeze. The major downfall to this flea market, it is closing in late may. i wonder where all the records are going to go, I know I ain't gonna be able to buy em all. Also I've found a great way to get some good quality records: ESTATE SALES check you local papers, they usually have about 2 dozen in my city(St. Louis MO) and about 3-4 always have records and my experience has been good, see these are better than Garage Sales because Estate Sales aren't sales of unwanted junk, but sales of people's valued items, I like em, found some good brazilian guitars at one, anyway I'm rambling, damnit now I wanna go dig, unluckily I can only dig on the weekends. NO GOOD RECORD SHOPS IN SAINT LOUIS! Like Slug says"
If there's only one store in your town that sells 12" Well SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Posts: 44Posted 21 years ago #Gee said: When you guys are diggin....how do you know what to pick up?
Do you just judge it on the lp cover?
Suprisingly enough sometimes the wacker the cover, the better the record, but that doesn't always work. The best way to dig is by set list and label. The reason this is the best way is because if you hear a great record and love it for what it is, not just because it has a sample, you want to find similar funk, so follow the path of the label or the artists that were on it. Soon after that you will develop a taste for what certain labels sound like and which artists and players you like. This only really works if you are about loving the music as well, not just being a loop digger. Don't abuse this tip, or take it for granted because it took me a while to really get a feel for it. Just trying to help a fellow fan out. Start out with dollar jazz picks anywhere from 70'-76'. Year is a key tell tale sign as well. -
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Posts: 524Posted 21 years ago #Honestly I feel that that approach isn't always the best way to go, I mean some of the sounds I have lifted don't even come from funk or jazz related albums, or labels that would have that kind of music in their catalog. This technique works if you combine it with another, which is use the above said approach to weed thru all the christmas and other bullshizzle i.e. hits from the 30's and 40's with odd time signtaures and tempos, but purchase portable turntable, listen to the record, find the bar, circle the track with a pen so you don't forget where it was and buy the sunbitch. That is what I do, most of the time, if you love the sample the song will grow on you as well. Word, love the music, 60's and 70's had some really interesting and well thought artists. -
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Posts: 44Posted 21 years ago #Boneunit saidlisten to the record, find the bar, circle the track with a pen so you don't forget where it was and buy the sunbitch. That is what I do, most of the time, if you love the sample the song will grow on you as well.
No disrespect, but this sounds a lot like loop digging to me. I mean I guess if your in a hurray to produce a track and need a loop, but taking your time to explore the labels and artists is key to finding more and more dope sh!t. I'm not against diving in and finding new stuff, but to just pick up a record, listen for a sample, memorize where it is, and then buy it is just so sterile and disconnected from the music. It's not about just finding a dope sample, it's about finding music that you are very passionate about, that way the whole record meets your musical taste, not just one loop. Once you find a record that knocks you on your ass, you'll like the potential samples off that a lot more than some random record you just picked up. It isn't even about what genre you pick. I only use jazz as an example because it is a very broad medium. That is what this artform is really all about in the first place The Music -
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Posts: 524Posted 21 years ago #PUTSFAN said: Boneunit said
listen to the record, find the bar, circle the track with a pen so you don't forget where it was and buy the sunbitch. That is what I do, most of the time, if you love the sample the song will grow on you as well.
That is one way to find a loop, why the hell not circle a track that sounds good? I mean wtf is wrong with saying, this song is nice, I am gonna circle it so I don't forget, because I will likely buy 25 records today and make sure I remember each and every peice that I like in particular.
No disrespect, but this sounds a lot like loop digging to me. I mean I guess if your in a hurray to produce a track and need a loop, but taking your time to explore the labels and artists is key to finding more and more dope sh!t. I'm not against diving in and finding new stuff, but to just pick up a record, listen for a sample, memorize where it is, and then buy it is just so sterile and disconnected from the music. It's not about just finding a dope sample, it's about finding music that you are very passionate about, that way the whole record meets your musical taste, not just one loop. Once you find a record that knocks you on your ass, you'll like the potential samples off that a lot more than some random record you just picked up. It isn't even about what genre you pick. I only use jazz as an example because it is a very broad medium. That is what this artform is really all about in the first place The Music
What is a beat digger doing in the first place???? Digging for the loop that creates a tight beat, damn I'm staight I am a loop digger, but that doesn't make me any less of a music lover. In a hurry? What I never said I rush in their to buy and look for loops, when did I say that? Your approach is completely biased, look for only these labels, this type of music, from these said years. Basically your saying if I listen to a record, don't like the music, yet there is a dope measure wherein, I cannot use it because I don't appreciate the music? No disrespect but that is illogical. My approach is two fold: to look for good gems for a beat, that doesn't discredit in anyway whether or not I am a true music lover. I don't necessarely look for a "perfect loop" Here is what I do: I listen to the songs, skim thru them listening to them, if I like it I buy it, if I don't I don't buy it. Then when I get home I clean them, sitdown and listen from the first groove on A to the last on B, appreciating every note, measure, tempo, tonecolors, dynamics, every damn thing.Not every crate digger is an audiophile mang, not every audiophile is a crate digger! This thread was created for beat diggers, not audiophile purists. I am a little of both, I dig for beats, and like the music as a whole. Listen to Thes, using these old records for beats has taught him a new love for old music, same here in a way. I didn't know the beauty of old music until I started beat digging. I had to find out on my own, buy listening for the purpose of beat digging, in the beginning that was my main goal to look for loops. But it has evloved from that in the two and half years of my digging "career", now I more than love this old stuff. -
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Posts: 44Posted 21 years ago #Hey Boneunit,
Bro chill, you sound pissed. No one is questioning your beat digging. As a matter of fact I'm glad you love the music as much as you do. As I said in my opening of my previous satment "No Disrespect". You have to understand my statement in response to your first. You have clarified your stlye of digging much better in this second response and it actually sounds a lot like my style as well. I don't stick to only specific lables like some sort of elite beat digger, but what I'm saying is use a dope label, ANY LABEL, as a pathway to finding other dope music that you love and dope samples. I also don't stick to certain years either. As I said before my recomendation from70-76 was just a broad based reference for begginers. But if you happen to notice that certain years were in music were more friutful than others for certian genres and depending on what year something was recorded, it can give you some insight to what it sounds like. This is just a good investigative tool in case you can't hear the record until you get it home. Again I want to claify that I'm not fronting on your style of digging, but merely responding with my point of view so that we can all learn something from each other. Understand though that your first statemetn was rather vauge as to your feelings on the topic and your second response was very insightful. Remeber, you responded to my comments first with a respectfull disagreement -
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Posts: 524Posted 21 years ago #Your absolutely right, I'll be the first to admit I jumped the gun a bit. I had this idea you were just labeling me as someone who looks for the next big hook and thats all, sorry bro my fault. I apologize but I get mad sometimes when I feel I am being labled as someone who isn't into this for the love of the music. Peace and blessings
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Posts: 576Posted 21 years ago #PUTSFAN said: Boneunit said
listen to the record, find the bar, circle the track with a pen so you don't forget where it was and buy the sunbitch. That is what I do, most of the time, if you love the sample the song will grow on you as well.
No disrespect, but this sounds a lot like loop digging to me. I mean I guess if your in a hurray to produce a track and need a loop, but taking your time to explore the labels and artists is key to finding more and more dope sh!t. I'm not against diving in and finding new stuff, but to just pick up a record, listen for a sample, memorize where it is, and then buy it is just so sterile and disconnected from the music. It's not about just finding a dope sample, it's about finding music that you are very passionate about, that way the whole record meets your musical taste, not just one loop. Once you find a record that knocks you on your ass, you'll like the potential samples off that a lot more than some random record you just picked up. It isn't even about what genre you pick. I only use jazz as an example because it is a very broad medium. That is what this artform is really all about in the first place The Music
Either way, he's doing his thing... -
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Posts: 44Posted 21 years ago #Hey Boneunit,
I hate being labeld as well, and it is sometimes hard to convey exactly what were trying to say on a message board, so I hear where your coming from. Appreciate the response, and for the record(haha great pun) I think we dig a lot more alike than we think.
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