So this game is about to drop for this Christmas right?
i wanted to hear what yall had to say...
pretty big names signed on to it Grand Master Flash, DJ Shadow, etc.
Thought? Opinions?
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Posts: 594Posted 16 years ago #invisible blunt roller better be on there
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Posts: 3,255Posted 16 years ago #I said over in the "Gamin' on Ya" thread that (based on the packaging) it looked sorta bunk, but I had another chance to check the box out, and it's not all bad. The press are giving it around an 8 or 8.5 out of 10. Here's the list of mashups:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ_Hero#Soundtrack
Ups and downs. Black Eyed Peas and Gwen Stefani? Downs. DJ Yoda, Jackson 5, Rockit? Ups. -
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Posts: 3,255Posted 16 years ago #Too bad they didn't get KK, Thes, or PUTS to mix a track or two. The exposure wouldn't have been bad. Trying to think of what songs they could've "mashed" -
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Posts: 1,415Posted 16 years ago #As a turntablist this pisses me off.
I dont care if its a bit of fun.
If you want to DJ buy some decks, spend hours of your life searching for records, spend all your hard earned cash on the best beats you can find, spend hours on end practicing new techniques until you get a build up of latic acid in your forearms, learn your records off by heart, spend hours juggling one bar on duplicate copies of records, introducing new ideas to your juggles, learn the history from Grand Wizard Theodore, Q Bert, Craze, Kentaro etc. Spend hours watching DMC battles and educate yourself.
Its not a game, scratching is emotional and juggling is the thinking.
Whats next paint like Picasso?
Its an art... turntables are instruments not to be made in to some game where kids are going to think they are the next DJ Skully not that they know who that is.
Its meant to be an individual being orginal not 1000s kids cutting up Jay Z. -
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Posts: 44Posted 16 years ago #f*** man dont by this , its the same as guitar hero ! buy a real guitar its just as easy to learn and even more fun !
Same as decks , whats the point in this when there is a finite amount of songs you can mix and how you can mix them , real deacks there are infinite possibilities on how you can mix or scratch
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Posts: 1,874Posted 16 years ago #loudwon and sapien, i'm with you lads, but i think we're fighting a dying battle. I'm an old school dj, even though i'm mostly playing living room sets these days, but haven't you noticed that the vast majority of people djing in pubs and clubs and stuff are off a laptop or a couple of motherf*cking ipods (
)? Basically, the art of turntablism is dying i think. Sure there are plenty of cats out there like us who still use vinyl, and even serato is acceptable as far as i'm concerned, because the skill of manipulation still applies, even though its killing digging. But the kids don't want to do anything that requires any effort, they want instant shitey gratification, and flashing colours and f*cking Jay-Z mash-ups. Yeah it's dull and actually genuinely depressing, but i think it's inevitable. People are idiots. -
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Posts: 3,255Posted 16 years ago #While I agree with you 200%, if I might play devil's advocate for a second:
I think that this whole "hero" game craze got started to be a simulator, much like the flight simulators or even the first-person arcade shooters (house of the dead or whatever). You know, put the video game user in the shoes of a pilot, a military trooper, a guitarist, or yes, even a DJ. It probably also helps to improve manual dexterity, which can be a contributing factor to someone being a "good" guitarist, DJ, etc. (but that's one small factor for the overall picture...)
That being said, I still say that simulating music isn't a very good idea from the get-go (unless you're talking about something simple like Wii Music that can get kids to appreciate music). DJing and guitar playing are MUCH more intricate than just a few buttons, and no one learns to play "Black Magic Woman" overnight. My fiancée, a professional cellist, rips the crap out of every song she puts her hand to (on Expert mode, no less), but she can't play guitar to save her life.
At the very least, I could see a "Piano Hero" 'cause pianists are essentially pushing a bunch of buttons already, but no one wants to buy a package THAT large, and just like the others (esp. DJ Hero), they wouldn't allow room for personal flair. They'd probably rock a bunch of sh*tty Coldplay and other new-age pop and completely leave behind the Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, Fats Waller, or whatever.
Long story short: the games have sh*tty music selections, might delude people into thinking that the real thing is just as easy/simple, and dumb down everything, but theoretically, they can be interesting simulators if you concede that they're just a game (which is too hard of a concept for some people; they think that pushing buttons actually makes them a Guitar Hero... Yeah, and having phone sex means you really had sex!) -
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Posts: 44Posted 16 years ago #a fair point !
and on the flip side , it might actually make them think , hey this is kinda fun lets see what the real thing is like !
for instance check south park episode where they play guitar hero and form a band ! Then get addicted to chase the pink dragon hero -
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Posts: 588Posted 16 years ago #Hmm... I just don't no more anymore. You know that scene in 'Beat Street' where Double K (Guy Davis) calls Tracy's boss and people like him biters. He was basically saying that biters are those people with money who don't know sh!t about hip hop. Then biters bite off something from hip hop that they can market and make money off and spit the rest of it out. In this scene they would plan to attract some viewers with Lee's breakin. The consequence to this is that then the biters can claim to be down with hip hop, when they really aren't. Well, that's exactly what has happened in the real world. It is the biters who go on the airwaves (tv, radio, or other media) and not only claim to be down with hip hop, but claim to actually be hip hop (ie. Power 106 'where hip hop lives' - what a joke). As we all know, there are many 'elements' to hip hop. Our music was the first thing to get biten, because obviously, music is easier to market. They bit our music and spat out anything that would not be beneficial to their pockets, and hence you got people like lil whoever. For many years I thought the other 'elements' of hip hop would remain unbitten cause I couldn't really see how they could really market these other 'elements.' But now, they have done it to our dance; b-boying, popping, locking, etc. The biters have figured out a way to bite our dance and make profit from it, while again spittin out the parts they don't like. This happened with some of these dance shows, especially "America's Best Dance Crew." On that show for example, they bit b-boying by having people break to songs from artists such as NSYNC. Here's the evidence: -
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Posts: 3,618Posted 16 years ago #Massive Monkeys are an ill bboy crew ... but NSync WHATTTT!? :-?
I thought dudes would by hyped for this game, I am! Has some real good hip hop legends on it - DJ Z-Trip, Murs, DJ Shadow, Flash... how often does that happen? NEVER! And its not trying to replace real turntablism man, it's a game. It's more a tribute than anything. "Oh I'm not gonna play Operation Flashpoint it's putting real soldiers out of business" hahahahhaah GTFO -
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Posts: 594Posted 16 years ago #goop!
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