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P fan #1
Joined: Jun '08
Posts: 1,874Posted 17 years ago #I went to see Gza play a gig last night, (in glasgow, scotland) and he reminded me why i love the PUTS so much. He was absolutely wack, one of these guys that seems to think he's too good for the fans. He was totally lacklustre and just rattled through songs, no chat, no audience participation. He looked bored, and tired. He spent most of the gig walking around with one hand in his pocket. At one point they even brought out a f*cking chair for him to sit on! What the hell is that about? Fair enough if he was tired, but we paid £20 bucks each to see him, it was a pretty shameful affair. My mates almost got into a brawl with some Wu-Kiddies when we started booing the guy, that was the most interesting and exciting part of the gig. The support was much more entertaining (skinnyman, british hip hop legend). Maybe I'm just spoiled by seeing the likes of the P, GP, UD, Heiro, Blackalicious, Edan & Insight etc etc, all cats that put on a goddam show instead of just going through the motions. Big up the P and long live the underground hip hop show. Rant over. -
P fan #1
Joined: Jun '08
Posts: 1,874Posted 17 years ago #anyone else been to any hip hop gigs recently? whats the chat? -
new cat
Joined: Feb '07
Posts: 22Posted 17 years ago #That definitely sounds lame. The last hip hop show I saw was the P in Omaha on the tour right before FUN DMC dropped, and they were live as hell, it was amazing of course.
Thinking about it, I really haven't seen enough hip hop shows, but every one I've seen has been amazing. I saw Jurassic 5 once, the P twice, and UD once as well. Other than that I haven't seen a whole lot except local talent :/ So far I'm very spoiled as to how awesome the shows are! -
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Joined: Jun '08
Posts: 95Posted 17 years ago #Yo DODO was it the "Liquid Swords" show? I saw him in Chicago and his openers were weak, but he ripped through Liquid Swords and played every verse from his Wu stuff worth hearing. He did just stand there but I think that is his style. He is an old man though, and it is not that awesome that he sat down during the show.
As for recent shows, I saw Girl Talk last week. It was a pretty raw display of teenage/white people's sexuality. good times.
I also saw Lupe on Halloween and that show was RAW. He had like three bands playing together as one, and they were tight. Great Times. -
P fan #1
Joined: Jun '08
Posts: 1,874Posted 17 years ago #yeah it was the liquid swords show. Man i know he's getting on a bit, but i don't really buy that old man sh!t. I went to see Public Enemy last year, i'm pretty sure flava flav is getting senile these days (did he not make some f*cking dating show on MTV?) , and they had more energy than a lot of the teenagers in the crowd. Sure Gza played through the treats, Duel of the Iron Mic being my favourite, but it felt like he couldn't be f*cked, and that meant i felt like i couldn't be f*cked. There you go.
On another note, who's girl talk, and what does "raw display of teenage/white people's sexuality" mean? ha ha. -
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Joined: Jun '08
Posts: 95Posted 17 years ago #Thats right your across the pond right? Well first of all, I too saw PE last year, and I agree, f**king' hype ass show. And Flava Flav didn't just make a SINGLE show on VH1... (pretty much MTV....its tough to explain exactly what it is, all you need to know is its like MTV in cultural status) but rather he created a genre of sh!t-shows. Here is how the digression went: Celeb-reality (a bunch of washed up celebrities live in a house together and they do stuff and drama happens). Then there was Flavor of Love, where Flav had a contest to find a mate for him. Now here is where the sh!t-shows get dicey. Celeb-reality continued on, as did Flavor of Love 2, as did a show or two with contestants from Flavor of Love 1 (I Love New York i think was one of the names) and from that there has been a terrible downward spiral where "celbrities" are created just from being on one show as a contestant and being crazy (look up Real Chance at Love). The moral of Flava Flav is, if you are crazy enough, you can spawn a series (or almost an entire TV network) of reality shows that act like cancer to society.
Sorry for that rant, but on a lighter note, Girltalk is a mashup artist to the extreme. Very popular to college students and still not in mainstream, but on the edge. He uses hundreds upon hundreds of samples in his albums, and the albums flow without a stop to the beat. Its party music. I like it 'cause it has something for literally everyone, even people who have terrible taste in music. It is the kind of thing that if it was put on at a party with a bunch of people with different musical tastes, everyone would love it. As for the raw display of sexuality, I went alone, and ended up having my junk ground upon for most of the show by a few different peole whos names I never got. Elsewhere, some people had sneaky sex not too far away, and as GirlTalk called up more people on stage (he pretty much pushes play, then dances and pulls enormous crowds of people up on stage), the girls up on stage just couldn't have been dancing any dirtier. Children could be put through college with dancing like what I saw.
His music is all free at illegalart.net i think (he is just waiting to be sued over copyright infringement). Just google search or something Girl Talk. I like Night Ripper the best, but his newest album isn't bad either. He is, if nothing else, an interesting character who fights for good times, free music, and a land where sample based music is not punished, but rather embraced.
And as for the white people comment, it was more about if I go to a hip-hop show where I am the only or one of a few white people (being on the Southside of Chicago this is frequent) there, then I have no problems just chillin' watchin the show, smokin a blunt, wavin my hands etc... But when its a bunch of white people, they get all dressed up weird, spaz out, get super drunk, don't like smokin' B's and look at me like a creeper if I am just there to chill and watch a performance. Ya dig? -
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Joined: May '08
Posts: 64Posted 17 years ago #daaamn dude. I'mglad i didnt go to his show at the El Ray a couple months ago. It always sucks to go to a hyped show thats turns out to be bunk... Pullin' that "too old" sh!t is whack, but i guess thats what money does to people. GZA is personally my favorite Wu member, but i wouldnt put it past someone whos had commercial success to feel "too cool for skool". keep bumpin. -
P fan #1
Joined: Jun '08
Posts: 1,874Posted 17 years ago #Musicaldope:
ha ha, the girltalk gig sounds f*ckin hilarious... Sounds like the right kind of guy to rock the party. Have you heard of a guy called dj yoda? He does mash up kind of stuff too, but its more comedy mash-up sh*t. Check out his album, How to Cut and Paste II, that's the best of the bunch. Again he's an awesome live dj, seen him a couple of times doing crowd pleasing VJ sets, with samples from everything from thundercats to big trouble in little china.
Weird what you were saying about overtly sexual dancing. You don't tend to get that much of that over here in the uk, unless i'm going to the wrong clubs. One of my ex's in is California at the moment, and she says the bumping and grinding is extreme, way over the top. It seems a bit weird to me, especially if your trying to court some young thing and they start rubbing their ass against you. I would find that off-putting
maybe i'm just old school.
children could be put through college ha ha...
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